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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193571574" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193571574">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="897">@T-compiler/meeting</span> -- today is a planning meeting for our design meeting schedule over the next 3 weeks. As of this moment, we have <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Ameeting-proposal+-label%3Ameeting-scheduled" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Ameeting-proposal+-label%3Ameeting-scheduled">two meeting proposals</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193571645" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193571645">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>But before we get to that, any....</p>
<h1>Announcements</h1>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193571690" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193571690">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:01)</a>:</h4>
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<li>I opened <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/2904" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/2904">Major Change RFC</a></li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193571724" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193571724">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:01)</a>:</h4>
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<li>I've picked up the python 3 transition work that <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="210316">@GuillaumeGomez</span> started and hope to finish that soon, so if for some odd reason you care, now you know! :)</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572176" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572176">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>there were leftover no,minations from yesterday</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572180" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572180">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:05)</a>:</h4>
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<li>Speaking of Major Changes, we have three <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Amajor-change+" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Amajor-change+">pending proposals</a>. I'm going to create a stream and a bit more stuff around them, but the idea is that if folks thing it's a good idea, they should "second" the proposal and we'll announce them at triage meetings.</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572248" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572248">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116083">pnkfelix</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10/near/193572176" title="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10/near/193572176">said</a>:</p>
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<p>there were leftover no,minations from yesterday</p>
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<p>(but I suspect we are better off letting them wait until next week's thurday meeting)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572249" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> GuillaumeGomez <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572249">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> I definitely care! Thanks a lot for helping me on this! If you need a hand, don't hesitate to ask. :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572256" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572256">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116083">pnkfelix</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10/near/193572176" title="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10/near/193572176">said</a>:</p>
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<p>there were leftover no,minations from yesterday</p>
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<p>do we want to try and cover those today?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572280" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572280">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm sort of inclined to just use this meeting for its intended purpose unless there's urgency</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572294" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572294">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>(Speaking of which, shall we get started?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572303" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572303">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>We can decide at the end I guess whether to cover nominations</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572304" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572304">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>i basically wanted to give <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> a chance to chime in and argue that some of them should be discussed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572322" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572322">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>/poll Meeting proposals</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572329" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572329">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh I was a bit slow with announcing this:</p>
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<li>I've just opened <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/70989" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/70989">#70989</a> so that PR CI will tell you if the new <code>mir-opt</code> tests are failing for 32-bits</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572347" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572347">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>(which may become a common problem now)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572356" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572356">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me was still writing that PR's description</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572478" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572478">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Regarding <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/177" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/177">compiler-team#177</a>, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span>, we published your post, and there were some answers in internals, I don't think there are any other updates or developments?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572495" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572495">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Wait, we have <em>too few</em> meeting proposals? That's a first? :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572524" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572524">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="126931">centril</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10/near/193572495" title="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10/near/193572495">said</a>:</p>
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<p>Wait, we have <em>too few</em> meeting proposals? That's a first? :D</p>
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<p>(maybe a third? its happened before I think)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572529" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572529">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah I think sideeffect is basically stalled, I don't think anyone in internals had any solid ideas on how to do better</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572531" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572531">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>/poll Folks who have conflicts with dates?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572570" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572570">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>Just to have an easy summary of who's around, feel free to vote for weeks that you have a conflict :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572600" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572600">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>(May 1 is international worker's day, so that's definitely a conflict ^^ -- I shall be out demonstrating <span aria-label="megaphone" class="emoji emoji-1f4e3" role="img" title="megaphone">:megaphone:</span>)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572616" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572616">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>(depending on the Corona virus)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572741" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572741">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>May 2020 or May 2021?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572756" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572756">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span>  both <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572759" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572759">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK, it seems like the first question to decide then is what week to use for <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/267" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/compiler-team/issues/267">compiler-team#267</a> -- I wonder if <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119235">@David Tolnay</span> or other libs folks would be around</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572768" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572768">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah I had forgotten about all the may holidays from my time in France</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572783" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572783">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>April 24?</p>



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<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> already? :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572868" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572868">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119235">@David Tolnay</span> has told me they can make this slot any week, I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193572933" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193572933">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK, let's just say Apr 24 then.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573033" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573033">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was <em>supposed</em> to be on vacation in Ireland that day, but... <em>that's</em> not a problem anymore.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573040" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573040">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>In case we pick May 1st and have the meeting then: My view on the proposal: it seems like a solid idea <span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573212" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573212">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK, the other question is llvm.sideeffect. I personally feel like, in the absence of any new developments, I don't feel the need for a meeting at the moment.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573225" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573225">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>In terms of actionable steps, from skimming the thread,</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573240" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573240">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>it does seem like we could land a simple mitigation that literally just detects infinite loops?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573252" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573252">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>since apparently that's a common idiom in some contexts</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573258" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573258">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's a rough idea I've had yeah</p>



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<p>I think that's accurate; still, sorta discontent with not fixing that soundness hole <span aria-label="frown" class="emoji emoji-1f641" role="img" title="frown">:frown:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573294" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573294">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was skeptical before that it would be that useful in pratcice, but if it's common in embedded environments, seems fine.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573298" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573298">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>I have not had time to prototype that, but I think we should do so if it is performance free (I expect it should be)</p>



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<p>Presumably</p>



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<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span>  the idea doesn't involve MIR or frontend changes, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573361" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573361">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>nah, just an adjustment to the backend I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573364" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573364">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>Like, those loops should literally not exist today</p>



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<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> ah ok, great</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573401" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573401">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>(well rustc_codegen_ssa IIRC, but same thing)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573457" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573457">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Maybe we should advertise this soundness hole more <del>clearly</del> broadly; I feel that it's common in practice to hit</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573459" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573459">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK. So maybe we're just done here.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573488" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573488">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well, we have lints for the recursive case, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573492" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573492">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>And we would eliminate the <code>loop { }</code> case</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573505" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573505">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>we try to lint on recursion, and we would fix the trivial loop {} case</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573524" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573524">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> it doesn't always work I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573534" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573534">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>note though that you can write code which <em>we</em> think is not trivial loop {} but LLVM sees as such</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573537" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573537">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>i don't know aggressive the recusion detection is</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573538" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573538">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, it couldn't possibly... (halting problem)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573551" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573551">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>certainly not inter-procedural, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573554" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573554">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116009">nikomatsakis</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10/near/193573488" title="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10/near/193573488">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Well, we have lints for the recursive case, right?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I used to hit this somewhat often, but I don't anymore ever since</p>
<p>(a) the lints trigger<br>
and (b) I started writing <code>T::foo(self)</code> instead of <code>(**self).foo</code> when implementing traits for <code>&amp;T</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573565" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573565">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>the recursion lint is pretty limited in that it doesn't look at the callgraph at all, just self-recursion</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573593" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573593">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>sure, I'm just saying that self-recursion is the only case where I personally ever hit it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573600" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573600">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>and it's polymorphic so no trait method resolution (except for a special-case)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573605" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573605">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm curious to know if other folks hit the problem in other contexts</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573616" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573616">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>it'd be good to try collecting examples</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573677" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573677">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>since another actionable step would be seeing if we can extend or detect those sorts of cases</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573678" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573678">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> it will never catch a "visitor pattern" type thing, for example, being infinitely recursive</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573685" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573685">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also, should we use this meeting slot today to do some triage?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573699" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573699">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>(as long as there is more than one <code>visit_...</code> method :P)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573729" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573729">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="126931">centril</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10/near/193573685" title="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10/near/193573685">said</a>:</p>
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<p>Also, should we use this meeting slot today to do some triage?</p>
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<p>we're only 20min in, and we're all here, sounds good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573730" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573730">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>Regarding triage, I'd rather not, because I've got a lot of things I'd like to do today. Did you mean discussing nominated issues?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573743" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573743">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>triage ... of P-high issues?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573752" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573752">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> p-high issues, nominated, etc.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573754" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573754">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems like the people who can and want to stay can do so</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573779" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573779">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>but niko's time in particular is pretty <del>valuable</del> scarce, so I'm fine with letting them go</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573812" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573812">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>fair 'nuff</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193573899" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193573899">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems fine to me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193574036" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> centril <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193574036">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> do you want to drive?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193574074" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193574074">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>sure okay, this is going to be somewhat ad hoc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193574107" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193574107">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>lets maybe create a fresh topic</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.04.10/near/193574144" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10.html#193574144">(Apr 10 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>over here: <a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/ad.20hoc.20triage.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10/near/193574123" title="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/ad.20hoc.20triage.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10/near/193574123">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/ad.20hoc.20triage.20meeting.202020.2E04.2E10/near/193574123</a></p>



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